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Tornado is documented like a web server which is probably why tornado seems “better documented”. Apples and oranges.

I thought that is what this page said http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedWebPlan

After another read through, I realize what confused me: that you are taking stuff from twisted.web2 and rolling it back into twisted.web. This quote from there is very telling:

“This is mostly a problem of perception, but there are some real issues.”

I thought things were going the opposite direction, with twisted.web being phased out and rolled into twisted.web2.

I think it IS obvious that I did not dig deep enough, but this raises an interesting question: how much work should you expect users of your tools do in order to figure out how to use it? Twisted appears to have a very high level of expectations for those who want to use it. I imagine I am not the only one who could not make the commitment to read every single piece of documentation in order to figure out how to build something with it. Laziness maybe, or perhaps just different expectations on what documentation should contain.

Thanks for the response. I just need to correct one thing. You said “When you read stuff like “Twisted.web is being deprecated and Twisted.web2 is under development”, well, you can understand why people look at Tornado and say they would rather use it than Twisted.web.” but Twisted Web is not being deprecated. Can you tell me where you read this so I can correct it?

Thanks.

Actually, it’s not very funny because ‘getting all twisted up’ doesn’t pass for normal English; you want ‘getting all wound up’ – ‘wound up’ being the same as ‘twisted’, it’s even cleverer.

I even bought the twisted book and it’s not all that helpful in my opinion.

If the book had been: 1/3 lower-level networking basics, 1/3 architecture overview / design discussion, 1/3 serious twisted projects twisted would be in very widespread use.

As is the twisted book is a hurried tour of twisted usage for some simple apps, kind of like a bound volume of annotated hello-world for various twisted modules. It’s short, too.

It is a nice extra bit of info but pretty far away from what it’d take to turn you into a competent twisted developer.

It’s really too bad, too, b/c from what I can tell twisted is an amazing piece of work, it’s just well-nigh unapproachable.

Cheers
Stephan