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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Deployment Is Not A 4 Letter Word&#8221; &#8211; The Screencast!</title>
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	<description>Facebook should&#039;ve be written in unicornSchemaLang, because everyone *knows* that PHP is no good for anything, right?</description>
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		<title>By: Deployment is not a 4 letter word &#171; blerou szerszámosládája</title>
		<link>http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/2008/04/17/deployment-is-not-a-4-letter-word-the-screencast/comment-page-1/#comment-11551</link>
		<dc:creator>Deployment is not a 4 letter word &#171; blerou szerszámosládája</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 04. 20. by blerou    Az Open Web Vancouver 2008 konferencián Chris Hartjes egy érdekes el?adást tartott deployment témakörben. Érdemes végighallgatni és elgondolkozni (ha még nem tetted meg  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 04. 20. by blerou    Az Open Web Vancouver 2008 konferencián Chris Hartjes egy érdekes el?adást tartott deployment témakörben. Érdemes végighallgatni és elgondolkozni (ha még nem tetted meg  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Kozlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/2008/04/17/deployment-is-not-a-4-letter-word-the-screencast/comment-page-1/#comment-9310</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Kozlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Chris!  That&#039;s exactly what I was after.  I wouldn&#039;t have known where to look in the red-bean book either, so thanks for the link too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Chris!  That&#8217;s exactly what I was after.  I wouldn&#8217;t have known where to look in the red-bean book either, so thanks for the link too!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hartjes</title>
		<link>http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/2008/04/17/deployment-is-not-a-4-letter-word-the-screencast/comment-page-1/#comment-9304</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hartjes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brendon

The key here is understanding that you can do pre-commit and post-commit things with most modern version control systems.  In your case, you&#039;re talking about a pre-commit hook that runs your tests and if you see any failures in the output to not allow that commit.

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.ref.reposhooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brendon</p>
<p>The key here is understanding that you can do pre-commit and post-commit things with most modern version control systems.  In your case, you&#8217;re talking about a pre-commit hook that runs your tests and if you see any failures in the output to not allow that commit.</p>
<p><a href="http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.ref.reposhooks" rel="nofollow">http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.ref.reposhooks</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Kozlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/2008/04/17/deployment-is-not-a-4-letter-word-the-screencast/comment-page-1/#comment-9303</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Kozlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, thanks for making your talk available!  In your talk you discussed a previous job where the one in charge of the repositories forced commits to pass certain tests.  I&#039;m not totally familiar with SVN beyond simple commit/checkout but is that possible to say, for instance, use CakePHP&#039;s SimpleTest logic on modifications to code before allowing a commit?  I think out of your entire talk, that had me the most intrigued and most confused both at the same time.  :)

Hopefully the red-bean svn book has some information about that.

Those of you looking for a book on SVN and don&#039;t want to hurt trees: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, thanks for making your talk available!  In your talk you discussed a previous job where the one in charge of the repositories forced commits to pass certain tests.  I&#8217;m not totally familiar with SVN beyond simple commit/checkout but is that possible to say, for instance, use CakePHP&#8217;s SimpleTest logic on modifications to code before allowing a commit?  I think out of your entire talk, that had me the most intrigued and most confused both at the same time.  <img src='http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hopefully the red-bean svn book has some information about that.</p>
<p>Those of you looking for a book on SVN and don&#8217;t want to hurt trees: <a href="http://svnbook.red-bean.com/" rel="nofollow">http://svnbook.red-bean.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know there are various free hosted SVN services out there, but if you are not developing an OSS application then you are normally not allowed to make the source code private and are normally charged a fee.

I have just started using a service hosted by Assembla (www.assembla.com) and am very impressed with it. The free service allows 500MB space and Trac, etc. PLUS you can make the project private.

Well worth a look but don&#039;t forget about CakeForge!

(usual disclaimer about not being affiliated applies)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know there are various free hosted SVN services out there, but if you are not developing an OSS application then you are normally not allowed to make the source code private and are normally charged a fee.</p>
<p>I have just started using a service hosted by Assembla (www.assembla.com) and am very impressed with it. The free service allows 500MB space and Trac, etc. PLUS you can make the project private.</p>
<p>Well worth a look but don&#8217;t forget about CakeForge!</p>
<p>(usual disclaimer about not being affiliated applies)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Meller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great talk. Deployment has really been a gap between my version control and production thus far, so it was perfectly timed.

I would love to see some more blog-fodder about DB versioning and Capistrano deployment. Any points of advice or wisdom that you&#039;ve learned along the way would be great...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great talk. Deployment has really been a gap between my version control and production thus far, so it was perfectly timed.</p>
<p>I would love to see some more blog-fodder about DB versioning and Capistrano deployment. Any points of advice or wisdom that you&#8217;ve learned along the way would be great&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great presentation! I&#039;m gonna go and ask for some resources to install subversion on one of the servers on my internship. They&#039;re storing everything in a public windows share at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great presentation! I&#8217;m gonna go and ask for some resources to install subversion on one of the servers on my internship. They&#8217;re storing everything in a public windows share at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - you rock to unknown depths. I think my brain is making the necessary connections as to how this all fits together now. (As I typically work alone, this never came into play before... but the bigger projects I did years ago are a freakin&#039; headache now, lesson learned.) Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; you rock to unknown depths. I think my brain is making the necessary connections as to how this all fits together now. (As I typically work alone, this never came into play before&#8230; but the bigger projects I did years ago are a freakin&#8217; headache now, lesson learned.) Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hartjes</title>
		<link>http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/2008/04/17/deployment-is-not-a-4-letter-word-the-screencast/comment-page-1/#comment-9086</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hartjes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt

Well, that depends on available resources.  You *can* have an SVN repository on a server that is all by itself, but it&#039;s not a requirement really.  Where I work, the SVN repositories are on a server that also hosts some sites in production.  The important thing is to have the repository SOMEWHERE. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt</p>
<p>Well, that depends on available resources.  You *can* have an SVN repository on a server that is all by itself, but it&#8217;s not a requirement really.  Where I work, the SVN repositories are on a server that also hosts some sites in production.  The important thing is to have the repository SOMEWHERE. <img src='http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard/2008/04/17/deployment-is-not-a-4-letter-word-the-screencast/comment-page-1/#comment-9085</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, this is excellent, thank you!

Just one more question - do you have an SVN server setup that is independent of all dev, staging, and production environments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, this is excellent, thank you!</p>
<p>Just one more question &#8211; do you have an SVN server setup that is independent of all dev, staging, and production environments?</p>
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